Betting Against the Farm- Buy Put Options on Agriculture Equipment Makers

The Trades:

Buy to open the August 17, 2018 put on Lindsay Corporation (NYSE: LNN) with a strike price of $95 at $3.35 or lower. Symbol (LNN180817P95)

Buy to open the November 16, 2018 put on Agco Corporation (NYSE: AGCO) with a strike price of $55 at $2.00 or lower. Symbol (AGCO181116P55)

Buy to open the September 21, 2018 put on Titan Machinery (NSDQ: TITN) with a strike price of $17.50 at $2.00 or lower. Symbol (TITN180921P17.5)

The Rationale:

  1. Farmers worldwide and particularly U.S. farmers have seen their incomes squeezed for many years. 2017 farm income was flat with the prior year but 25% below the prior 5-year average. Based on its February 2018 report, the USDA projected net farm income for the calendar year 2018 to decrease 6.7% as compared to the calendar year 2017.
  2. This precarious financial situation will continue to hurt sales of agriculture equipment.
  3. China’s 25% tariff on soybeans is the final straw for U.S. farmers, sending the price of one its primary crops down to a 9-year low.
  4. Steel, a primary component in the manufacture of farm machinery, is seeing its price jump due to tariffs. This higher cost is also hurting profits of agriculture equipment producers.
  5. Lindsay reports this Thursday, June 28th before the market opens. Commentary from Lindsay may pressure the entire group and certainly will dampen its own stock if results are as disappointing as I expect.

Stock Specific Issues:

Lindsay Corporation (NYSE: LNN)

  1. LNN is the most timely of these options purchases. The company reports its third quarter this Thursday, June 28, before the market opens. If you are interested in these puts, the trade should be executed by the end of the day Wednesday.
  2. Irrigation equipment, mostly sold to farmers, makes up 81% of Lindsay’s revenue. Investors have been excited about a bump in North American irrigation revenue in the past two quarters. However, this increase seems to be simply a function of 15% declines in this business in the year-ago quarters.
  3. These easy revenue growth comparisons end this quarter and get more difficult in the August and November quarters.
  4. Inventory has been creeping up for four straight quarters, a possible indication that sales have been pushed out or been less than the company anticipated.

Agco Corp (NYSE: AGCO)

  1. AGCO sells equipment to farmers. Over half its sales are tractors. About one-quarter of revenue is in the U.S. where farmers are just beginning to realize their pain is getting worse. Half is from Europe, which is experiencing a slowing economy.
  2. AGCO’s inventories have been rising steadily for the past few quarters and now stand at 130 days of inventory, a very high level for this metric.
  3. Despite the company’s accounts receivable appearing to be improving, the company sells off a large portion of its receivables to a third party but retains some risk in the event of customer non-payment.
  4. Growth has been boosted by acquisitions for the past seven quarters. While some of this benefit will continue for the next two quarters, the underlying or organic growth has begun to slow.

Titan Machinery (NSDQ: TITN)

  1. Almost 60% of revenue is agriculture-related and an even greater portion of profits is generated by this customer group.
  2. The company’s annual cash flow has been declining since a peak of $207 in Q1 17. Last quarter this equaled $28M, the lowest level in at least 8 quarters.
  3. No dividend to support the stock.
  4. Despite 30% decline since earlier this year the stock trades for 41 times January 2019 estimates. Estimates for the following year assume a 26% increase in earnings which looks way too optimistic according to my analysis.

Stock Talk

MODERATOR: Lisa G

MODERATOR: Lisa G

I am unable to place the LNN trade on Fidelity. I get this error both in ATP and the website:

Error:(125603) The limit price entered is too far above the last trade price for this option security. Please use the following guidelines when entering a buy limit price above the last trade price : If the last trade price is less than $3, the limit price can be no more than a $1 above the last trade price; If the last trade price is $3 or greater, the limit price can be no more than $3 above the last trade price.

Asjad Shamim

Asjad Shamim

I just entered into fidelity with no issues. Though the price already went up but i put the $2 limit and waiting

MODERATOR: Lisa G

MODERATOR: Lisa G

LNN is a 2.75 limit not 2. I suspect you are talking about a different symbol.

Asjad Shamim

Asjad Shamim

You are right it was for other symbol

Linda McDonough

Linda McDonough

Lisa et al,
I have updated my buy limit price to $3.35. My trading system was giving me a stale price, despite the stock being open.
I apologize for the confusion.
Best,
Linda

MODERATOR: Lisa G

MODERATOR: Lisa G

Linda, I saw that thanks! Fidelity only likes 10 cent increments on this trade though.

MODERATOR: Lisa G

MODERATOR: Lisa G

Linda,

Midpoint is now at 5 and so it won’t take either 3.35 or 3.40 as I am getting the same error message. Either we have lost this one already or we hold off until another day.

Lisa

Asjad Shamim

Asjad Shamim

At 8:56am CST, the entry price for all three recommendations have already surpassed. Waiting to drop to get in

MODERATOR: Lisa G

MODERATOR: Lisa G

Fidelity only allowing 10 cent increments on LNN. Do other brokers do this? So annoying! Either do 3.40 or 3.30, which do I choose? Decisions, decisions! It would probably fill at 3.40 right away.

Steve S.

Steve S.

Same issue at Schwab, Lisa, only flavors available were 3.30 and 3.40. I went with 3.30 at about noon and it did not fill today. How did you do?

MODERATOR: Lisa G

MODERATOR: Lisa G

Steve.
It immediately went up to a midpoint of 5 and it wouldn’t accept the 3.40 so I finally gave up. Might give the market a few days to get over the trade war jitters and see if it is more doable then.

Stanley Golovac

Stanley Golovac

What’s up with SYX???????

Linda McDonough

Linda McDonough

Stanley,
SIdoti, one of the few brokers to cover SYX, downgraded the stock to neutral on valuation last week. His target was $36 and when the stock rose above that level he downgraded it. You can see my notes from last Monday’s weekly update that I increased my target on SYX from $36 to $44 after reviewing the updated numbers.
I do not have access to his report so unfortunately do not know what his assumptions are on the stock. My best guess for the harsh treatment of the stock is simply that it is not widely followed and is thinly traded. I still like it very much.
Best,
Linda

Asjad Shamim

Asjad Shamim

Just curious over all… was there a news or something? Whole market is bleeding and so am i 🙁

Linda McDonough

Linda McDonough

Asjad,
Yesterday’s overall market weakness was due to increased trade war fears. There was speculation that the government would tighten technology “exports” with many other countries in addition to China, which to date, has been the primary target.
Best,
Linda

NorMan

NorMan

Lindsay Corporation put is now at 3.80. Is the rule to drop this trade or do we have a percentage rule we can deviate from Lindas recommended limit price? My impression is that we do not increase the limit order and instead wait. But we cannot wait very long for this trade.

Derek Myers

Derek: Las Vegas, NV

MODERATOR: Lisa G

MODERATOR: Lisa G

TITN filled at $2. Only one of these 3 to fill so far.

Ted

Ted

I increase the limit by .05 on all three.

ACGO filled at $2.05 @ 11am today

Ted

Ted

TITN filled at $2.05 @ 11:06 am today

MODERATOR: Lisa G

MODERATOR: Lisa G

Linda,

Do you work PCA like Jim does OFI/VT in that if one person reports a fill at your price (or close) then into the portfolio it goes?

Lisa

Linda McDonough

Linda McDonough

A quick update on Lindsay Corp (NYSE: LNN)

LNN beat earnings estimates by 15% but beat revenue by only $2 million or 1%. The company had a much larger than expected restructuring charge, which makes me suspicious that perhaps some costs were re-allocated or re-categorized to this “one-time” expense bucket.

Infrastructure sales were stronger than expected, due to the delivery of two large orders that had been sitting in backlog. Infrastructure orders include the zipper system barriers that you see during major road projects. These are very profitable sales so it’s possible this was the reason for the earnings beat.

The real key to how the stock moves is future guidance. If this quarter’s beat is subtracted from the rest of the year, that won’t help the bull case.

Management should quantify guidance and certainly provide a current backlog number on its 11 AM conference call.

Backlog was $90.2 million in the prior quarter. I would consider it bearish if this number drops significantly, which would imply new infrastructure orders are drying up and future earnings may be weaker due to the pulling forward of these profitable projects.

Irrigation sales and profits were lackluster, as expected.

I will post an update after the conference call. The stock is flat in pre-market trading.

Phil L.

Phil L.

Linda,

Excerpt from https://www.thestreet.com/press-releases/lindsay-corporation-reports-fiscal-2018-third-quarter-results-14636671

The increase was driven by the delivery of a significant portion of two large Road Zipper System ® orders that were in the backlog. Infrastructure segment operating margin was 34.6 percent of sales in the third quarter (35.0 percent adjusted) 1, compared to 25.5 percent of sales in the third quarter of the prior year. Higher revenue from Road Zipper Systems resulted in improved margin mix and operating cost leverage. The backlog of unshipped orders at May 31, 2018 was $55.8 million, compared with $70.1 million at May 31, 2017, reflecting a higher backlog in the infrastructure segment and a lower backlog in the irrigation segment.

I am unsure it that is the total backlog but believe it may be.

Thoughts?

Phil

Linda McDonough

Linda McDonough

Yes Phil, you are correct. I am not sure how I missed that- thank you for the help!

MODERATOR: Lisa G

MODERATOR: Lisa G

Final scorecard as follows:

AGCO filled at $2.05
LNN at $3.30
I only got 1/2 my order of TITN at $2. Midpoint is now at 2.60. I suspect it won’t fill but since it is not until September I will leave it open for a while longer.

Maria R

Maria R

LNN aug $95 P midpoint is 2.90. Is it still ok to buy?

Victor

Victor

AGCO filled @ $2.0 on TASTY

mrbb

mrbb

AGCO filled @ $2.00 TOS

Mark F

Mark F

AGCO filled @ 1.90

Ted

Ted

I canceled my order at the close of wed (original rec. stated to fill by wed) and I see everyone is filling after that.

Where’s the update promised after post-conference call that happened yesterday. The stock is rising and the option is now $2.20-$2.30 – which is great if the stock falls in the future.

Ted

Ted

The above is about LNN

Linda McDonough

Linda McDonough

Hello all,
I have spent some time analyzing LNN’s historic backlog trends, which took a bit longer than expected. What I wanted to pull out is quantifying orders booked in the quarter versus new orders added to the backlog.
New orders dropped 15% this quarter, the largest decline in at least two years. This is particularly concerning as the May quarter is LNN’s largest quarter of the year for orders being added to the backlog.
My interpretation from the conference call is that management is giving a soft guide down on earnings due to the earlier than expected booking of some infrastructure revenue.
I do think the August 95 puts are a good buy at this level.
Best,
Linda

Stanley Golovac

Stanley Golovac

So what’s happening with SYX and LNN?
Buy? Hold? Sell?

Linda McDonough

Linda McDonough

Stanley,
If you do not see a new trade alert on a holding, you can assume it is a HOLD.
Any stock trading below its Buy Up To price can be considered a good buy. If the options are within a week of the original trade alert and are under the Buy Up To price, that can also be considered a “live” buy.
Best,
Linda

Frank Polk

Frank Polk

I feel like i am in the teilightt zone here. Since the LNN put recommendation has been made the stock is up several points and the option is down about 50%. No real ananysis or guidance from Linda as to why that is or how to manage the trade – execpt a few minutes ago when she said the puts are a good buy “at this level”. The problem is “at this level” is approx 50% below the original recommended trade so we still have no information about how to manage the original recommendation.
i realize options are volatile and that losses are inevitable and etc. It’s just that specific information seems to be lacking on the LNN rade

Frank Polk

Frank Polk

hmmm… twilight not teilghtt !! Sorry for the other misspellings.

Linda McDonough

Linda McDonough

Frank,
The puts are down in price because the stock is up. Options prices are extremely levered, so even a few percent price move in the stock can hit the options prices high.
I provided my detailed analysis of LNN’s quarter on Monday in the weekly update. The LNN options do not expire until August 17. I still expect the agriculture equipment supplier stocks to come back down.
What specific information are you looking for regarding the LNN trade? Yes, the trade is currently under water. This is not unusual as I cannot time these trades perfectly.
Best,
Linda

Frank Polk

Frank Polk

Linda: Thanks for your reply and additional information. I understand why options go up and down and that they are volatile. No one expects (or at least no one should expect) perfect timing, although it probably appears that way at times.
My concern was that your July 2 analysis made no mention of the fact that the options were down by a material % and/or that you expected the underlying to decline prior to expiration. The conclusion on July 2 was that the trade was still a “good buy” at these levels, but these levels were signifiantly different than when the trade was first recommended…so i was hoping for analysis that applied to the original trade, which you so kindly provided this morning and which i appreciate. Thanks. Frank

Phil L.

Phil L.

AGCO price cut to 60 from 68 by JP Morgan

Linda McDonough

Linda McDonough

Thanks for that update, Phil. Let’s hope it brings the sellers in!
Best,
Linda

Wallace Rodriguez

Wallace Rodriguez

TITN has not filled. Is at 2.60 – any new guidance? thanks

Linda McDonough

Linda McDonough

Wallace,
Sorry for the delay. Your post got lost in the mix. I suggest passing and waiting for the next trade. The option is up quite a bit from the buy level suggested. There will be more ideas coming.
Best,
Linda

Phil L.

Phil L.

Linda,

Trump just announced 12 billion in farm aid. Thoughts on if that will affect our positions ?

Phil

Linda McDonough

Linda McDonough

Phil,
This is a psychological positive for the farm/ag group but after reading reactions from farmers who are worried about the long-term plan for their businesses with tariffs in place. This aid will help keep them in business but I think most will still be hesitant to invest in new equipment. AGCO reports on July 31st and TITN on August 30th. Both puts will still be active at that time. However, I will be watching closely to make sure they don’t move against us too much.
Best,
Linda

Phil L.

Phil L.

Linda,

Thank you for the response. My thought process went to the numbers. China purchased 14 billion in soybeans last year. That doesn’t even cover other crops they purchase. While it will help the farmers temporarily, it is just that. They’re smart enough to know that unless the tariff war ends they better save their pennies. I actually increased my AGCO put position during the temporary upswing in the stock. Calm heads prevail.

Thanks again Linda

Phil

DJ

DJ

Hey Linda,

AGCO is showing nice profit. Should we bank it, What are your thoughts? Do you think the stock price has potential to drop further low?

Thanks.

Linda McDonough

Linda McDonough

DJ,
I’ve been watching this one closely. The stock was downgraded to neutral by JPMorgan this week. This is a pretty negative downgrade so I’m hoping it will continue to droop. That said, each subscriber has their own risk tolerance and I never disagree with booking a profit.
Best,
Linda

Diamond Bob

Diamond Bob

Hi Linda, Ozark Bob here. We sat together at the Alexandra conference. I bought the CC call and have been watching CC tank. Are you still optimistic short and long term? They’ve had such good results that this slide doesn’t make sense to me. I just bought a lower call (44) position for January. Your thoughts on the company, please.

Linda McDonough

Linda McDonough

Hi Bob,
I thought I had responded to this a while back but I’m not seeing my response here.
I apologize if I did not post it. Sometimes the post is linked to another comment.

I think CC is trading with the auto stocks (its Ti02 product is used in auto paint) and is caught in the quagmire of trade negotiations. I am looking to roll into a future call but do think it will bounce as we get more clarity on auto trade.

Best,
Linda

Phil L.

Phil L.

Linda,

Do you think management’s presentation on Thursday at the Laguna conference will provide any insight?

Phil

Linda McDonough

Linda McDonough

Phil,

Both companies will be at industry conferences this week. ICHR had to take down estimates last quarter, a shift after many quarters of comforting investors that they were not so tied to the semi-cap cycle, so I don’t see any incrementally positive news coming from that presentation.

ENTG has been more confident in their numbers but the stock is more expensive than ICHR, so at risk if there is any backpedaling on earnings.

I will be reading the transcripts to see if there is any incremental news.

Best,
Linda

Phil L.

Phil L.

Linda,

I was referring to AGCO

Thank you

Phil

Linda McDonough

Linda McDonough

Phil,

Mea culpa. Sorry about that and thanks for the nudge.

I think the stock may be weak when management presents at a conference this week as investors begin to digest the possibility that the company’s recent acquisition of Precision Planting might not be going according to plan. In reviewing prior transcripts I found this gem from CFO Andrew Beck:

Andrew H. Beck, AGCO Corporation – Senior VP & CFO [14]
” Well, we — you were focused on organic growth, but we had a large acquisition, impactful acquisition, Precision Planting that’s helping our North America results a lot here in the first 3 quarters of the year. And then in the fourth quarter, we won’t get that favorable comp anymore because we got their business for Q4 last year. So that comes out of the numbers.

And then also as we commented many times, we are still working our dealer inventories down in North America, and we expect some of that impact to be more second half of the year where we’re moving the dealer inventories down and our retails will be higher than our wholesales in the second half.”

The language in the second part of the quote indicates to me that the purchased business has too much inventory in the channel. Investors have not been able to compare growth rates for the acquired business yet but can do so once they loop around the purchase date.

The stock dropped pretty hard after the last presentation (8.07.18).

Best,
Linda

Wallace Rodriguez

Wallace Rodriguez

Hi Linda

AGCO Put is 50% loss right now. Entered at $2.09 and current price is $1.00 – Did i miss something?

Linda McDonough

Linda McDonough

Hi Wallace,

No, you haven’t missed any trade alerts. I missed issuing a sell or a roll-over on the last dip down and keep thinking the stock will weaken as we get increasingly poor crop reports. They expire in October so we have a short bit of time to make a move.

Best,
Linda

Phil L.

Phil L.

Linda,

Thank you for the detailed response.

Phil

Wallace Rodriguez

Wallace Rodriguez

Any recommendation on what to do with AGCO? At nearly 50% loss

Phil L.

Phil L.

Happy Reading

INSIGHT-Trump trade war delivers farm boom in Brazil, gloom in Iowa
BY Reuters
— 12:59 AM ET 10/11/2018

By Jake Spring and Tom Polansek

LUÍS EDUARDO, Brazil/BOONE, Iowa, Oct 11 (Reuters) – The Bella Vita luxury condominium tower rises 20 stories over the boomtown of Luís Eduardo Magalhães in northeastern Brazil. Its private movie theater and helipad are symbols of how far this dusty farming community has come since it was founded just 18 years ago.

Local soybean producers shell out upwards of a half-million U.S. dollars to live in the complex. Nearby farm equipment sellers, car dealerships and construction supply stores are bustling too.

Meanwhile, nearly 5,000 miles to the north in Boone, Iowa, farmers are hunkering down. At a recent agriculture trade show here, Iowa corn and soybean grower Steve Sheppard reflected the cautious mood.

“I’m not buying any machinery, I’m not spending any money,” Sheppard said.

Two countries. Same business. Two very different fates. The reason: China.

A growing trade war between the United States and China is re-ordering the global grains business. In response to Trump administration tariffs on Chinese goods, Beijing this year imposed levies on U.S. agricultural products. Among them was a 25 percent tariff on soybeans, the single most valuable U.S. farm export. U.S. growers sold $12 billion worth to China last year alone.

The fallout has been quick. China, the world’s largest importer of soybeans, has scaled back purchases of U.S. grain to feed its massive hog herd.

It is turning instead to Brazil, which has ridden the wave of Chinese demand for two decades to become a global agricultural powerhouse. Brazilian soybean exports to the Asian country jumped 22 percent by value between January and September, compared to the same period a year ago.

Brazilian producers are not only selling more grain, their soy is fetching $2.83 more per bushel than beans from the United States, up from a premium of just $0.60 a year ago, thanks to stepped up Chinese purchases.

Prices for U.S. soybeans, meanwhile, recently sunk to decade lows that farmers say are below the cost of production. The slump has made the agricultural sector a drag on an otherwise healthy U.S. economy. The Trump administration said in July it would spend up to $12 billion in taxpayer funds to help U.S. farmers offset trade-related losses, although the aid package could shrink.

Many American farmers, overwhelmingly conservative voters who helped propel Donald Trump to the presidency, are standing by their man. They believe he will eventually negotiate a better trade deal with China, whose appetite for soybeans is so vast that it cannot completely wean itself off U.S. grain.

But for the time being, Trump trade policies are handing precious market share, money and momentum to Brazil, the United States’ most formidable agricultural competitor. Some fear the lost ground will be hard to reclaim.

“Bad news on tariffs in the U.S. is good news for them,” Robert Crain, general manager for the Americas for equipment dealer AGCO Corp ( AGCO ), said about Brazilian farmers in an interview at the Iowa show.

BOON TO BRAZIL

Like their U.S. counterparts, Brazil’s farmers produce much more grain than is needed at home. Foreign customers are responsible for the country’s agricultural boom. Nearly 80 percent of Brazil’s soy exports now head to China.

The city of Luís Eduardo Magalhães is a testament to the importance of this international trade. Located in the state of Bahia, with farms stretching in every direction, the formerly unincorporated rural area in less than two decades has swelled to 85,000 people. That is bigger than Sioux City, Iowa’s fourth-largest city. Major employers in Luís Eduardo, as most locals call the city, include fertilizer factories, seed producers and processors of soy and cotton. The area “relies 100 percent on agriculture,” said Carminha Maria Missio, a farmer and president of the local growers union.

While Brazil’s overall economy is stuck in a ditch, the nation’s farm sector rolled to 13 percent growth last year. The John Deere ( DE
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) dealership in Luís Eduardo saw its sales rise 15 percent in 2017 and is expecting double-digit growth again this year, managing partner Chico Flores Oliveira said.

The local real estate market is surging too. Another new luxury condo tower is slated to open next year. Single-family homes are sprouting throughout the city. Prices for prime farmland are up 37 percent since 2012, according to consultancy Informa Economics IEG FNP.

Brazil’s total soy area is expected to expand to a record 36.28 million hectares this season due to robust Chinese demand, according to a Reuters poll of analysts.

Farmers here also are bullish on this month’s presidential election in Brazil. Far-right candidate Jair Bolsonaro, who is leading in the polls, favors rolling back fines for farmers who deforest illegally or break other environmental laws. Like Trump, Bolsonaro, is wary of China. But producers here trust him not to blow it on trade.

“Rural producers support Bolsonaro emphatically,” said Congresswoman Tereza Cristina, head of the powerful agriculture voting bloc in Brazil’s Congress. “We have access to him…and I am certain that he is smart and sensible.”

U.S. FARM BELT PINCHED

The outlook is much gloomier in Iowa, the long-established heart of U.S. agriculture.

It is the nation’s top corn-producing state and the No. 2 producer of soybeans. But its access to some global markets has suffered under Trump.

The president walked away from the Trans-Pacific Partnership, a trade agreement that would have opened valuable markets such as Japan to more American ag products. His renegotiation of the NAFTA accord had Mexico, the largest importer of U.S. corn, exploring other suppliers, including Brazil. Now the Chinese are pulling back.

Boone lays smack in the state’s center, surrounded by miles of row crops, hogs and poultry. Farmland values here fell 12 percent from 2012 to 2017, according to Iowa State University. Worries about the U.S.-China trade war loomed over the recent Farm Progress show, which comes to town every other year.

Equipment dealer Lee Randall jotted down prices at an auction of used tractors and implements at the show. Prices have dropped on trade tensions and low crop prices, he said, shaking his head as a green and yellow Deere & Co ( DE
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) combine sold for $118,000 and another fetched $82,000.

“Five years ago you could have added 30 percent to every one of these pieces,” said Randall, whose business, Randall Brothers, is based in Ohio.

Nearby, Brett Begemann, chief operating officer for Bayer Crop Science said farmers were likewise scrutinizing purchases of seeds and chemicals. The trade dispute is making it difficult for Bayer to predict 2019 earnings for its agriculture unit.

A two-hour drive north of Boone in Algona, Iowa, a town of about 5,500 people, farm doldrums are crimping business at the local Deere and Harley-Davidson Inc ( HOG
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) dealerships, the operators said.

“Ultimately this area lives and dies by the farmer,” said Jim Wilcox, an owner of the Harley store.

Farmers’ woes are showing up on bank balance sheets as well. The proportion of the region’s agricultural loans reported as having repayment problems was up in the second quarter, reaching mid-year levels not seen since 2002, according to the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago.

Rodney Jensen, who farms near Algona, regrets not making deals to sell soybeans from his autumn harvest when prices were higher. Like many, he is storing his crop, waiting for better times.

He worries China will not buy as much U.S. soy as it used to, even if the two nations patch things up.

“It’s been pretty pessimistic around here,” Jensen said.

(Reporting by Jake Spring in Luis Eduardo Magalhães and Tom Polansek in Boone, Iowa; Editing by Caroline Stauffer and Marla Dickerson)

Linda McDonough

Linda McDonough

Thanks for posting….gives me a few new ideas to work on. The AGCO puts are still underwater but have until November.
I’m looking for more U.S.-centric shorts to add.
Best,
Linda

Phil L.

Phil L.

Linda,

Following up on my previous “rant” I purchased the AGCO 55 put at a $2.00 average across several accounts. When the price swung in the opposite direction I purchased the AGCO 60 puts (equal amount) for $3.50 average. I am well in positive territory. Also paid extra for the AGN 190 puts. Needless to say …

Phil

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